• Reply to: Nationwide Wage Uniformity   5 years 8 months ago

    In response to Mark referring to Postal Carriers as "overpaid paperboys", I ask him to consider the differences between the two. I've been both a paperboy and now a Postal Carrier (Rural Carrier). As a paperboy, you only have one type of piece to deliver, must both collect funds and pay for their papers they deliver. But keep in mind, it's only one piece and doesn't need to worry about address labels or names when making deliveries. The mail carrier has multiple types of mail pieces to deliver (letters, flats or magazines, small and large parcels in many different shapes and sizes), must consider names, locations, handle accountable mail with scanning issues (insured, signature confirmations, registered, and international delivery confirmations, etc.), adhere to postal delivery regulations, safety and security procedures, and do all that in all types of weather conditions. Shall I go on? Mail carriers equal to glorified paperboys....I don't think so.

  • Reply to: Nationwide Wage Uniformity   5 years 8 months ago

    pay should not be associated with location. we are free to live and work where we please. if there needs to be a change in pay structure it whould be based on productivity and work standards (which the unions oppose)

  • Reply to: Nationwide Wage Uniformity   5 years 8 months ago

    Ive worked in offices with city in the past, have gone out with more mail on a longer route than some and finished before you guys, you work at one pace, which is fine, when we are finished we are off for the day you finish to early and your doing someone elses job, about 10 years ago we were short handed had a city boy sort mail on my route, had just bid on it and havent gotten it yet, he was on route for a month, never cased and delivered it but spent 6 hours a day in the office, cut our routes in half FSS is going to do that but not city boys working on any!

  • Reply to: Nationwide Wage Uniformity   5 years 8 months ago

    Wage uniformity. Funny how we try to copy communist countries!

  • Reply to: Nationwide Wage Uniformity   5 years 8 months ago

    Postal workers are overpaid paperboys. American public is finally figuring that out.

  • Reply to: Nationwide Wage Uniformity   5 years 8 months ago

    As a career city carrier of 25 years, I train all the new carriers that come to our office. All of them say the same thing: "WOW, mail delivery LOOKS EASIER than it really is!!!!"

    I challenge ANYONE who questions the pay that we receive to TRY IT.

    We have had two adjustments so far this year, and another is coming in October. We have had routes grow from 400 deliveries to 600 deliveries in an 8 hour day due to a reduction in volume.

    RRCARRIER, we also feel you pain, and understand, we city carriers are going through what you are going through.

    Everyone, no matter where you work are going through tough times and until the U.S. Government realizes that you cannot keep the status quo, I.E., raising taxes, and more government spending, thing are only going to get worse.

    Everyone, VOL. II, please stop the in-fighting and focus on where most of our problem are coming from:

    GOVERNMENT IS WAY TO BIG,AND WAY OUT OF CONTROL!!!

    It started with Bush 41, and Clinton/Bush 43/Obama are all guilty of carrying the torch on and on.

    VOTE VOTE VOTE!!! Do not forget what we are going through right now. Do whatever you have to do to remember how you feel right now, and VOTE in Nov. of 2010.

    The only place that an increase in un-employment is a good thing is in Washington D.C.!!!

    Godspeed everyone and God bless the USA!!!!!!!!!

  • Reply to: Brainstorm Ideas Part 2   5 years 8 months ago

    Exactly. Biggest turn off for customers is to hear about all the products and options that they did NOT COME TO BUY. Sell them their stamps, put postage on their packages, take their hold orders and shut the heck up!

  • Reply to: Brainstorm Ideas Part 2   5 years 8 months ago

    Right. Let's charge the public for forwarding their mail. First though...let's learn how to do it right again first. The Central forwarding system is probably the greatest example of how negligent we can be. Her's a great management decision: someone puts in a change and the carrier doesn't learn about it for anywhere from 2 to 5 days. Meanwhile he continues delivering mail to a mailbox that no one is living at. If the curtains are still up on the windows of the empty house...How can he tell no one's living there? Now you want to charge folks money for this??? You are a manager right? Our "service" sucks.

  • Reply to: Nationwide Wage Uniformity   5 years 8 months ago

    I've been a city carrier [city boy] for 25yrs and work 40hrs if not more a week. My question for the poor rural carrier is how many hours a day/week do you work? I am guessing that it doesn't total 40. If they would set up the rural routes like they do city routes there would be no need for half the routes in your station, but what do I know?

  • Reply to: Nationwide Wage Uniformity   5 years 8 months ago

    ups pay is considerably higher than usps. just thought i'd say something as i saw it on here a couple of times. like ups the usps has a tiered wage system.

  • Reply to: Nationwide Wage Uniformity   5 years 8 months ago

    With what we need to know, I don't see how Window/Distribution clerks should make minimal wages like the ups and fedex clerks. They work 4 hours per day. We work at least 8. The knowledge we have in our heads should mean something.

  • Reply to: Brainstorm Ideas Part 2   5 years 8 months ago

    First let me say I am not an employee of the USPS but a customer. I cannot in vision the US without the USPS. Through the posts I have read the answers I always see is cut management for craft workers. The answer I see from mamagement is cut craft workers. Neither is right. I have been on both sides in the private sector. Management and craft have to work together to make a better USPS in these bad economic times. I really don't think that all USPS employees know they have a decent job especially in these economic times.. If you are unhappy with you job just try one in the private sector. I sure it won't take long for you to change your mind. The grass is not always greener on the other side of the fence is true.

  • Reply to: Nationwide Wage Uniformity   5 years 8 months ago

    Either you are a boss or you are a liar...your telling me that you wouldn't want to be paid fairly like ups or fedex (we do more work in a day than they do and get paid less) It's people like you that make a mockery of these kinds of forums!!!!....SHAME on YOU!

  • Reply to: Nationwide Wage Uniformity   5 years 8 months ago

    Ive carried mail for 25 years and havent complained about my pay, rural carrier, but when you folks get raises we get mail counts, and our salary goes down, we add new homes our salary goes up, then we get a raise up again, then we get another mail count and we make less than we made years ago, we are treated poorly, and myself and a lot of others always thought it would get better, guess what its still worse! Started working for PO 6 days a week 25 years ago and now working 6 days a week for less pay than a year ago! PO puts in machines and tells us we now get paid one minute for every 27 flats we deliver, funny our time goes down for this, but keeps the city boys working 8 hours a day on 6 hours worth of mail! People need to be treated fairly, and a lot of Postal Managers need stats , whether they are there or not!

  • Reply to: Nationwide Wage Uniformity   5 years 8 months ago

    Just as I thought. The posting of comments on this board are screened, and those not liked although appropriate are removed. Let's see how long this one stays. I posted earlier (it disappeared/was removed), that since the employee opinion survey information was used by postal management in past contract negotiations it seems the OIG is now being used as a tool for management to gain more information. Lets be honest: 1st people knew the wage base when they made their decisions to hire in. 2nd If there is locality pay then Postal Service should continue paying the same rates with future raises however those in higher cost of living areas should be paid more!

  • Reply to: Nationwide Wage Uniformity   5 years 8 months ago

    Those on IOD should not be allowed to work overtime. After all they need all the healing time possible.

  • Reply to: Nationwide Wage Uniformity   5 years 8 months ago

    Comparable pay should be the norm. Or you will end up with inferior employees. There clearly should be locality pay.

  • Reply to: Brainstorm Ideas to Help the Postal Service   5 years 8 months ago

    ELIMINATE TACS/ERMS!

    What a waste of time for management. USPS is the only Federal agency that reguires employees to punch on a clock. I hear managers/supervisors all the time complaining about all the hours it takes to implement the timekeeping process.

  • Reply to: Nationwide Wage Uniformity   5 years 8 months ago

    OIG,

    Until you been there, done that, why do you put your nose were it doesn't belong?

    Besides, management runs the show (and you see how a wonderful job there doing taking care of themselves) and beating up the customer services I hope, not just suck off top of the revenue's, then want to lay-off the workers!

    First you have to have people whom know and want to make money, understand transportations, and what vehicles you need vs. some slick salesmen (Telling you what to buy)!
    Coming down to the trenches would be a GREAT start and ask the workers, and not by bias employee surveys!
    You might not like what you hear..... but you might learn also and get (1) good idea, but I doubt it?
    Until you get a PMG like Ross Perot, and dump the board of governors, it will keep going down hill.

  • Reply to: Nationwide Wage Uniformity   5 years 8 months ago

    AFTER OVER 30 YEARS IN THE PO AS A CARRIER, MY ARGUEMENT WENT ON DEFT EARS,WE NEED AN AREA COST OF LIVING LIKE UPS FOR WAGES, NOT THE SAME PAY THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY.

  • Reply to: Nationwide Wage Uniformity   5 years 8 months ago

    as a postal employee for many years it would be unfair to anyone to try and change the way the postal employees are compensated for their work. every American had the opportunity to take a civil service test, many did but did not score well enough to get into the postal service. When i took the test and passed high enough to get in, would i have taken the job if i knew down the line my salary would be impacted to match private sector jobs? I could have merely taken a fireman or police test and gotten in.
    i live in a high cost of living state so my postal salary is not as great as some may think, if it wasn't for another job and another income i would not be able to afford to live in the state.
    i feel bad for many people that are out of work or have low paying jobs, but is that the fault of the postal employee?

  • Reply to: Nationwide Wage Uniformity   5 years 8 months ago

    I agree your opinion!

  • Reply to: Nationwide Wage Uniformity   5 years 8 months ago

    Postal carrier jobs are comparable with those at FEDEX and UPS as they are similar in nature., thus the pay scale should be similar. Mail processing and mail handler work is less strenuous and it is somewhat difficult to associate a similar job to determine a comparable wage. Administrative jobs should be fairly easy to compare with those at the GS level and pay should be comparable. However, in all cases, area wages should be included.

    Area wages should be determined by "buying power" rather than by just a dollar figure. As an example, if it takes 50k a year for postal employees in the mid-West to live in a 3 bedroom house, buy a new car every 5 or 6 years, and take his family on a decent vacation every two years, than that should be their salary. If achieving the same lifestyle in California or New York equates to 80k a year, than that should be the salary in those states.

  • Reply to: Nationwide Wage Uniformity   5 years 8 months ago

    Carrier Pay should be in the ball park of UPS.
    General blue collar labor for Mail Handlers and Custodians is really high for my area of the country.
    Clerks seem high too.

  • Reply to: Nationwide Wage Uniformity   5 years 8 months ago

    Since Congress and the President seem to want to charge postal employees a higher percentage for health benefits and life insurance "just like all the other federal agencies" then we should be paid General Schedule "just like all the other federal agencies" and we should get locality pay, yearly raises, COLAs, and MetroChek "just like all the other federal agencies." Since we are all aware of the number of postal employees moving over to OIG (and other agencies) and nobody at all moving from OIG (and other agencies) to USPS, it is clear that there is general agreement with my point within both USPS and OIG.

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