When you buy a car, how long do you tend to keep it? A few years? Six or seven? Ten? For the U.S. Postal Service, it’s a long, long time. The backbone of its delivery fleet – more than 200,000 vehicles – is the right-hand-drive Long Life Vehicle (LLV), which has an expected service life of 24 years. But almost 70 percent of the LLVs on urban and rural routes are now between 25 and 32 years old, and maintenance costs are high.

The combined effect of aging vehicles, a growing number of delivery points, and a changing mail mix increases the need for new delivery vehicles to meet the current operational demands of six-days-a-week delivery. That’s why the Postal Service began planning in Fiscal Year (FY) 2015 for acquisition of a new, Next Generation Delivery Vehicle (NGDV) to start replacing the current fleet beginning in FY 2018 through FY 2019. But due to frequent changes to the NGDV acquisition timeline, the planned deployment date is now scheduled for January 2022.

Our auditors looked at the Postal Service’s acquisition strategy, which uses modeling of current and projected operational data. As noted in their recent report, they found that the strategy was generally adequate, but significant implementation delays arose. USPS management told our auditors that the original timelines were not sufficient and more time was needed to develop and test the prototypes. For example, issuing the Request for Proposal to suppliers for the NGDV prototype vehicle took six months longer than initially planned due to extensive stakeholder briefings.

We recommended the Postal Service’s Vice President, Delivery Operations, coordinate with the Acting Vice President, Engineering Systems, to perform a schedule risk assessment of the NGDV production timeline to evaluate the risk of further delays and determine whether modification to the mixed vehicle acquisition strategy is warranted. Management agreed.

Do you remember when the Postal Service last transitioned to a new vehicle in the late 1980s/early 1990s? What did you think then of the Jeep being replaced by the LLV? What do you remember when you saw the first Postal Service LLV?

Comments (357)

  • anon

    Did you know the post office does not pay taxes. Although taxes do not pay the USPS’ payroll, they are exempt from federal taxes. BILLIONS $$$. So, technically, you’re right. But...if A equals B and B equals C. Then, A = C

    Dec 16, 2020
  • anon

    I agree electric vehicles should be the new standard. Not only would efficiency go up, time wasted filling gas tanks multiple times a week and emissions for some vehicles with very smelly exhaust would go down. I'm told the sabotage by congress of 2006? was an attempt to kill funding that would have gone to electric vehicles and would have cut a lot of revenue from the oil companies for gasoline. However to "James Gately": Your arrogance is astounding. As a patron like me who buys stamps and sends packages you may be a CUSTOMER, but as a taxpayer you hold no sway over the post office. You have no connection. You're not their boss. Your insistence is useless. Find a hobby.

    Nov 20, 2020
  • anon

    Rumor has it that contract will be announced before Thanksgiving, and then another rumor mentions after the USPS meeting first week of December? Any hints to when this will be?

    Nov 18, 2020
  • anon

    How can we support the postal service transitioning from gas to all electric vehicles? Is this something that is being explored? Thanks!

    Nov 16, 2020
  • anon

    I started with dj_5 keeps,hated no power steer or brakes.they aged real fast ,miles of play in steering wheel,doors popped open while driving,good points were overhead vents,springloaded windows.llv was a godsend,Ffv even better ! ( although not designed for delivery) comfort level is great,just needs air cond.new truck will make work just needs a.c. m.t.c.

    Nov 12, 2020
  • anon

    All electric, all the time. It's the 21st Century and climate change is our #1 problem.

    Nov 11, 2020
  • anon

    Climate change is our # 1 problem??? Do you live in the U.S? Are you deaf? Blind? From what I see, climate change may be in the top 100.

    Dec 05, 2020
  • anon

    Looking forward to an all-electric USPS truck fleet, which will save substantial lifecycle costs given the high usage of these trucks.

    Nov 08, 2020
  • anon

    USPS finally got an approved budget from Congress so replace all delivery vehicles to have 0 emissions status, what is the delay on decision? Usually getting the budget is the hard part, you have competent US companies like Workhorse and Lordstown whom are capable of manufacturing 400+ vehicles monthly. Any more delays is endangering postal workers from vehicle failures which were 10 years overdue for replacement.

    Nov 08, 2020
  • anon

    Will the LLV be for sale and if so how much??

    Nov 03, 2020
  • anon

    USPS should be utterly embarrassed and ashamed that theyre still allowing this process to drag on after so many years. Our LLVs are 35 years old and catching on fire. They are not safe to drive in, and at best they are unreliable to perform the job. For God's sake, cut the crap and pick the next generation LLV replacement already! Enough is enough. Stop playing politics and do your job! Pick the new vehicle so we can actually start using them.

    Nov 02, 2020
  • anon

    E v trucks are very expensive. Now if government actuaries find that It is cheaper than a gasoline engine that’s hard to believe. Realistically the U S government will cram Technology down our throats . U S postal service should be eliminated , phase it out. Eliminate Money, put everything on a plastic card. No one can hide money from taxes. Buy E V Stocks and get rich LOL

    Nov 02, 2020
  • anon

    USPS...Simply EV's are the future of driving....The world and it's technology is changing fast and I can't envision the USPS buying, driving and maintaining a fleet of gas vehicles for the next 25-30+yrs

    Nov 02, 2020
  • anon

    Sure I remember the Jeeps. I liked the Jeeps. I also remember the Westcoaster scooters that preceeded the Jeeps. And......I remember the life cycle of postal vehicles use to be 7 years. A citizen could get a good deal on the purchase of the vehicles at auction.

    Nov 02, 2020
  • anon

    The internet is saying an important EV related meeting take place next week. Is this true? I love Workhorse!

    Oct 30, 2020
  • anon

    You are on Stocktwits.com and are trying to short the stock. EV is the way of the future, dont be a hater!

    Nov 03, 2020
  • anon

    Workhorse should be the winner of the usps contract! Everything is going electric and with everything electric who else is there besides wkhs to get the US Postal service truck contract? Giant boost to wkhs https://m.benzinga.com/article/16607321 The competition of wkhs produces emmisions. Zero emmisions laws in 15 states https://www.theverge.com/2020/7/14/21324552/electric-trucks-buses-clean-air-zero-emissions-states Workhorse has 2 year lead on competition https://m.benzinga.com/article/16712149 The modified ford appears to be a diesel. The karsan aside from appearance also burns fuel and the looks are concerning. https://m.benzinga.com/article/15896943 Workhorse does not work alone they work closely with lordstown motors actually owning 10% of it https://www.wkbn.com/news/local-news/lordstown-motors-still-hoping-for-usps-contract-as-proposal-deadline-extended/ Usmca replaced nafta and it will impact wkhs who already make electric vehicles https://group.atradius.com/press-releases/us-import-tariffs-affecting-auto-industry.html President Trump and his supporters have made it clear how they feel about workhorse / lordstown motors and things being made in America. They want jobs back in Ohio to replace those lost at the GM plant what would be a better way to get those jobs back ? Cash for clunkers was done under a different president in an attempt to help the auto industry which unfortunately is obviously still a problem. Trump is trying to help get jobs back are we not yet ready to make a step to electric trucks? https://youtu.be/BR0yF6VIChA

    Oct 30, 2020
  • anon

    In my opinion , both Ford and workhorse are the way to go to re do the entire fleet over time. Ford can help with bigger hauls while workhorse can handle last mile delivery vehicles.

    Oct 30, 2020
  • anon

    Rumor mill says "USPS getting ready for large meeting to discuss EV contract details". Is the meeting on Monday?

    Oct 30, 2020
  • anon

    electric vehicles are unreliable. besides, Ford builds 'em to last.

    Oct 29, 2020
  • anon

    How about the 2022 Ford E-Transit then? All electric and made by Ford. Best of both worlds!

    Dec 16, 2020
  • anon

    The best joke I’ve heard in a while

    Oct 30, 2020
  • anon

    Electric vehicles are good.

    Oct 29, 2020
  • anon

    at this point, Ford has the best entry. electric vehicles are unreliable, and electricity costs money, every time you have to recharge one. you still have to pay money for electricity, even if you're the government. Gasoline is still the way to go, this time around.

    Oct 29, 2020
  • anon

    And the thousands of moving parts that need to be maintenanced every couple thousand miles, just adds to the fun!

    Nov 19, 2020
  • anon

    Is gasoline free?

    Nov 13, 2020
  • anon

    Really need an EV with low maintenance cost to increase the efficacy of our delivery!!! Service matters!!!

    Oct 28, 2020
  • anon

    What company is the USPS thinking to get into a contract with?

    Oct 28, 2020
  • anon

    When will we hear who wins the contract is a determination still expected by the end of 2020?

    Oct 27, 2020
  • anon

    Really wish they would give some type of information about the contract. Several USPS employees that I've talked to in the Texas area are considering quitting over the lack of leadership and poor work environment due to no growth in vehicle and employee safety.

    Oct 27, 2020
  • anon

    Are the new fleet of delivery vehicles going to be electric or gasoline?

    Oct 27, 2020
  • anon

    A company called EVgine has a working vehicle but the big companies are now having a very hard time keeping things silent about EVgine. EVgine offers electric vehicle drivetrain and battery kits at a fraction of the cost. Morgan Olson called EVgine on several occasions but ultimately decided not to work with EVgine. We assume that they felt they could figure out how to get their own trucks working. This was two years ago. EVgine is now posting their all electric trucks on YouTube and they show easy maintenance, hill climbs, highway speeds and pulling very heavy trailers. Engine offers reposer kits at a fraction of the cost. EVgine has kits for existing vehicles which will save the Post Office millions of dollars and EVgine has proven that they can meet the expected cost to repower the LLVs. www.EVgine.com

    Oct 26, 2020
  • anon

    No Ford. Their vehicles suck. I got the 2nd Ford for wife. Easy broken and many problems. Leaking fuel will is really unacceptable. If you want keep repairing your vehicles then go with Ford.

    Oct 24, 2020
  • anon

    its about time. I've only been working for a short time and man this update is way past due. I've had some pretty bad experience with this Old LLV though its built strong its not up to par with todays driver and streets. Im so glad to hear the recent updates on the LLV. hopefully I'll get a chance to drive one. Hope its en Electric. Im not gonna miss breathing all those fumes . good luck.

    Oct 24, 2020
  • anon

    Workhorse is simply the best bidder. Save $, help the environment, bring jobs back to Ohio, get a step ahead in the EV world. This is a fantastic opportunity for America. EV is where the globe is heading. What’s most exciting: we’re just beginning to explore this technology; imagine where EVs could be within the next 10 years?! Upgrades can and will be made in the future. Not much more room to run with combustible engines. I’m genuinely concerned that trucks are catching on fire, and I am disappointed and embarrassed that the USPS is dragging their feet on expediting this process. Mail carriers lives are in danger by working for the USPS right now– not the best look.

    Oct 22, 2020
  • anon

    UPS published something that estimated that if the workhorse drone could save each of their drivers just one mile/day - they'd see a savings of $50mil/yr. Certainly applies to USPS as well. So Workhorse is offering USPS a vehicle with lower operating and maintenance costs due to EV design of the vehicle and then they add performance capabilities (drone) that not only go beyond the competition - they further reduce cost of ownership. Rust proof monocoque body that saves over 4k lbs in weight over a conventional vehicle. Hub motors and batteries that can be easily replaced down the road so that usps can run these trucks about as long as they want. One of the largest and most capable manufacturing sites in the country in Lordstown. And a taxpaying public that has clearly shown they want to see our country transition to electric. There are just so many compelling reasons for USPS to choose wkhs.

    Oct 22, 2020
  • anon

    The new vehicles should absolutely be electric. Workhorse makes a perfect vehicle for USPS.

    Oct 22, 2020
  • anon

    Obviously a vast amount of shilling on the part of Workhorse shareholders here. Workhorse isn't even ready. A couple states approvals, yes, but even UPS has moved on from any future commitments and is buying 10k trucks from privately held Arrival. An full EV maintenance structure would be a mechanical, electrical, and financial nightmare for the USPS. They need solid dependability. American General fits the bill. If dabbling in EV is desired, then add a few Mahindra for experimentation. https://www.trucks.com/2017/11/06/trucks-compete-next-usps-delivery-vehicle/ AM General designs, engineers, manufactures, supplies and supports specialized vehicles for military and commercial customers worldwide. Through its military business, the company is widely recognized as a world leader in the design, engineering, manufacture and support of Light Tactical Vehicles, having produced and sustained more than 300,000 vehicles in over 60 countries.   AM General has more than five decades of experience meeting the changing needs of the defense and automotive industries, supported by its employees at major facilities in Indiana, Michigan, and Ohio, and a strong supplier base that stretches across 43 states.

    Oct 21, 2020
  • anon

    except they aren't one of the three remaining vendors on the list.

    Nov 05, 2020
  • anon

    Who are the 3 vendors?

    Nov 11, 2020
  • anon

    The $6 Billion contract needs to be split between Ford and Workhorse. Many areas in the Northern areas that use salt on roads and have more rural areas will need Ford and Oshkosh vehicles with combustion engines due to extreme cold, snow, and salt (corrosion). EV vehicles are not field-tested yet.

    Oct 16, 2020
  • anon

    EVs are much cheaper to manage, and they can be capable of what gas vehicles do. Salt on roads affects all cars, so whatever they do to those cars can be done here.

    Oct 16, 2020
  • anon

    The Office of the Inspector General report says the USPS is spending $700m/year to keep the old LLVs running. A huge amount of money could be saved if the delivery span is shortened. So instead of receiving the NGDVs over 5 years why not credit a competitor if it can deliver in a shorter period of time? Specifically if Workhorse could team with Lordstown Motors to harness the massive production capacity of the Lordstown plant the entire production run could be delivered in a much shorter period of time thereby saving the USPS billions of dollars.

    Oct 15, 2020
  • anon

    Why is this a matter of contemplation or debate still? The money is allocated and the EV is obviously the best choice for long-term cost and environmental impact. Pick Workhorse -- the one EV in the race and already approved for California and Federal Highway and Safety -- and get this going already!!

    Oct 15, 2020
  • anon

    I bought a Nissan Lead 3.5 years ago and gave up buying cas. Having driven 36000 miles, my cost in terms of additional electricity is between $150 and 200 per year. My monthly gas bill was $250 a month. My gas car required oil, tires, brakes, and the occasional other repair. I estimated these at $1000 per year. Total savings due to electric ownership. I estimate ($250 times 11 times 3.5 years or $8500 and $3500 from repairs) $12000. Oddly, my car has also increased in value another $1000 ( I bought it used). For America, please buy an electric truck. An EV will save you money in fuel and repair terms. The lack of noise pollution, carbon pollution, and less down time are all extras. It may cost you more upfront, but operationally it will save you money every day. Some say the batteries will fail in five years. Batteries can be "tuned up" for a marginal amount of money = about 10% of the battery cost - every 2-5 years, for the cost of one catalytic converter.

    Oct 15, 2020
  • anon

    How did you estimate $1,000 per year for owning a gas car? If you drove 36,000 miles in 3.5 years, you do about 10,000 miles a year. Thats 2 oil changes. A set of tires lasts about 40,000, and guess what, electric cars wear out tires as well. Brakes? Brakes last about 40,000 miles as well, and on average cost $400 to replace. So that's $100 a year, plus 2 oil changes, which on average would be $50/each. So $200 a year for maintenance? By the way I own a Prius and plan to go for a Chevy Volt/Tesla next, but don't romanticize electric cars. They are still in early stages and the technology has a long road ahead.

    Oct 16, 2020
  • anon

    Regenerative breaking is a thing. It’s hard to sell against EV...

    Oct 22, 2020
  • anon

    I think you’re forgetting that gas cars run on gas and gas costs $

    Oct 22, 2020
  • anon

    USPS could invest in half their fleet as Workhorse Electric vans and have the deliveries over the next two years then ask GM to work with workhorse to provide updated tech vans after that to fulfill the rest of the order replacing all of the fleet (all meaning semis too)

    Oct 15, 2020
  • anon

    I have spoke to Tesla owners who say their mileage is cut in half around 40° and the colder it gets the faster their battery goes away. Why spend that kind of money on a vehicle that can’t be used year round? EVs are not that great for the environment never mind the mining process to get the products to make the battery. What are you going to do with the battery when it’s service life is up? Electricity doesn’t come out of the air in a lot of places something is burned to create it. Maybe a natural gas engine would be better.

    Oct 13, 2020

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