When you buy a car, how long do you tend to keep it? A few years? Six or seven? Ten? For the U.S. Postal Service, it’s a long, long time. The backbone of its delivery fleet – more than 200,000 vehicles – is the right-hand-drive Long Life Vehicle (LLV), which has an expected service life of 24 years. But almost 70 percent of the LLVs on urban and rural routes are now between 25 and 32 years old, and maintenance costs are high.

The combined effect of aging vehicles, a growing number of delivery points, and a changing mail mix increases the need for new delivery vehicles to meet the current operational demands of six-days-a-week delivery. That’s why the Postal Service began planning in Fiscal Year (FY) 2015 for acquisition of a new, Next Generation Delivery Vehicle (NGDV) to start replacing the current fleet beginning in FY 2018 through FY 2019. But due to frequent changes to the NGDV acquisition timeline, the planned deployment date is now scheduled for January 2022.

Our auditors looked at the Postal Service’s acquisition strategy, which uses modeling of current and projected operational data. As noted in their recent report, they found that the strategy was generally adequate, but significant implementation delays arose. USPS management told our auditors that the original timelines were not sufficient and more time was needed to develop and test the prototypes. For example, issuing the Request for Proposal to suppliers for the NGDV prototype vehicle took six months longer than initially planned due to extensive stakeholder briefings.

We recommended the Postal Service’s Vice President, Delivery Operations, coordinate with the Acting Vice President, Engineering Systems, to perform a schedule risk assessment of the NGDV production timeline to evaluate the risk of further delays and determine whether modification to the mixed vehicle acquisition strategy is warranted. Management agreed.

Do you remember when the Postal Service last transitioned to a new vehicle in the late 1980s/early 1990s? What did you think then of the Jeep being replaced by the LLV? What do you remember when you saw the first Postal Service LLV?

Comments (357)

  • anon

    I am very concerned with decision to only acquire 10 % of the new fleet as electric and from a company that has never built an electric fleet vehicle. I worked for a start up company that built 10 UPS fleet trucks [electric] for the northeast US in 2014. What team set up and surveyed your bidding processes? 150,000 vehicles still burning fossil fuels and idling is an affront to global climate concern.

    Jul 12, 2021
  • anon

    I work as a CCA at the PO in Huntsvile, AL. When will we start receiving our new delivery vehicles. My cousin works at a different location than myself, more rural. Her PO has one already in route. Just wondering why such a small PO received one first instead of a larger PO like the ones located in Huntsville AL

    Apr 21, 2021
  • anon

    My office just ordered llv's for rural routes. I'm all for it, but not looking forward to the down time. If they don't have 10 ply tires, going to be having flats often. The gravel roads we have, aren't just gravel. They're dirt too. I have a couple of roads, after a couple days of rain, that I will put jeep in 4Whigh. Two days ago, I pulled in to customers drive to service box, when turning around, I got stuck. Yes, I could've tore up their yard trying to get unstuck, but...put it in 4W/high with no problem getting out. They really didn't think this through! Was just told today, no pay compensation. If that's the case, and after 16 years (8 fulltime)....who knows what the future holds!

    Mar 31, 2021
  • anon

    How do I go about getting a postal vehicle for my route?

    Mar 07, 2021
  • anon

    I would like to purchase an LLV or a jeep that has been taken out of service how do i do this. Thanks

    Mar 03, 2021
  • anon

    I'm excited about getting new vehicles but I'd love to have one of the old mail truck. What happens to the old vehicle once the new ones come in.

    Mar 02, 2021
  • anon

    I would like to buy a postal van before it is TAKEN off the market. HELP HELP HELP.

    Feb 25, 2021
  • anon

    I would like to purchase a LLV that has been taken out of service, how would one go about this?

    Feb 25, 2021
  • anon

    So USPS can forget about the USPS Moving Forward Act that requires USPS to update its fleet to 75% EV or Zero Emission? Now USPS say it will only purchase 10% EV? It means USPS expects that the congress will still pay for the bill of fossil fuel vehicles that will continously polluting our fresh air for the coming 20 years?

    Feb 24, 2021
  • anon

    The better option for the vehicle is the Dodge van that is in use now. Why embarrass the mail carriers even more by driving these vehicles around? Does someone in the stake holders have a brother that owns a part in this company to go with this design?

    Feb 24, 2021
  • anon

    What happened to President Biden announcing that the government vehicles would be all electric? Boy, would I love to know whose palms got greased in this transaction !! I promise you I will be deeply investigating this ! Good Luck !!

    Feb 24, 2021
  • anon

    A deep state military vehicle company gets it with a gas engine ! I am so pissed ! I am an IDIOT not to see this coming. So much for Biden even knowing whats going on . Lets see if he makes a comment on the 8 Billion contract that has nothing to do with his electric only agenda! Yea .. Right.

    Feb 24, 2021
  • anon

    Canoo. Customizable bodies. EV. Multiple configurations. American made. An existing company with an existing product.

    Feb 12, 2021
  • anon

    or Atlis. Longer battery life and more versatility for USPS with bolt on bodies and plug and play power.

    Jul 07, 2021
  • anon

    WORKHORSE

    Feb 07, 2021
  • anon

    Lordstown Motor Co.

    Feb 09, 2021
  • anon

    Workhorse is the only reasonable choice to receive this contract. Ford/Oshkosh submitted an ICE vehicle which is unacceptable especially with more states moving to zero emissions standards in the near future.

    Feb 07, 2021
  • anon

    Dear Postal delivery , please cancel new delivery trucks. Here's why , With AC , in and out of vehicles, the drivers delivery people would likely get sick , not good . Not a smart idea, many states likely will not allow disposal of the current vehicles. From a environmental standpoint its a very bad logistical disposal problem. Also the delay, any delay in projects like this ,its all aboard for fresh,rotting fraud and theft Cancel it , delay it forever. I make delieveries,I drive a ton some days . hey as a semi retired auto mechanic General Motors has , likely has machine and dies left for the 2.5l engine parts ,if not already contracting them to USPS garages. Retrofit some vehicles with propane if not already done so , another great idea. Consult Canada, they use the current vehicles. They probably don't like the idea .Keep what your office has , expand garages if needed for body and engine . Utilize a bigger driver compartment fan by simply updating the alternator. Better tires in northern climate, electric vehicles will likely fail. I love people , your office vehicles are Honorable, Honor these current vehicles indefininitley,If I could order your office to I would.Don't take any wooden nickels We love the pony express. Thank you post office delivery. Respectfully with Trust ,William

    Feb 05, 2021
  • anon

    The government already evaluated that repairing the current severely obsolete vehicles cost more than buying new EVs as the original manufacturer already STOPPED manufacturing the replacement parts years ago. The engines are not fuel efficient as their technology is old and it causes unnecessary carbon emissions everyday. The vehicles are catching fire every few months, endangering the precious lives of mail delivery officers and the communities that these vehicles travel through. If you really care about the environment, from an environmental standpoint, replacing the engines of these vehicles will cause the same pollution than replacing the whole vehicle as most parts of the vehicle made with steel can be recycled. Recycling metals from scrap vehicles has been done for more than 50 years in case you don't know.

    Feb 17, 2021
  • anon

    I just want a LLV to replace having to use my POV. Us, rural carriers at small offices (small in size not in mail or package) are treated like garbage, honestly. The turnover rate is ridiculous because POV/RHD CANNOT keep up with the volume and having to make 2-3 trips for packages alone, 50+miles, dirt roads, etc. I could go on and just to see other slightly bigger offices complain when they have the ROOM and less volume makes me sick. Do us all a favor and respect and give LLV's to the smaller rural offices!!

    Feb 05, 2021
  • anon

    Announce the WorkHorse contract please.

    Jan 28, 2021
  • anon

    Electric vehicles? It's 13 degrees outside, I've got 700 stops, over 40 miles in six to 8 hours, with the window open. Summer months it gets to 100 degrees. The LLV's sit in the municipal parking lot overnight, kids frequently break our mirrors. So now add 14 charging stations, power cords, I'm sure they won't get vandalized or unplugged. Will they be 4 wheel drive? We just got 6 inches of snow today. No way that battery will drive that and keep me from freezing.

    Jan 26, 2021
  • anon

    The Grumman isnt 4wheel drive. I don't think the heaters even worked in half them are you on a POV route? 70 miles sounds like a lot for city route but I'm not postal carrier. I think workhorse is 4wheel drive but I don't have details on the prototype and yes seems unlikely you can have the heat cranked and 4 hub motors driving through 6 inch snow without killing batteries very quickly, I think we need to switch to Electric with as many trucks as possible but I do see a need for a hybrid or ICE vehicle for some routes, hybrid seems like high maintenance likely doesn't offset enough fuel consumption

    Feb 14, 2021
  • anon

    All of the proposals are garbage and selecting any of them would be a colossal waste of taxpayer dollars. There will be dozens of new EV companies entering the market this year who have better products, and more experience. They should re-issue the RFP now that there are more players in the EV market.

    Jan 26, 2021
  • anon

    I was, USPS embolyee on late 90's (mail deliver) on my consideration, the actual LLV actual is the more complete technique for this job. Is not comfortable but is strong and with good small size. Just I recommend rehab the existing one. For lees of 10k You can get back on service. Also same chassis and buddy with electric motor system and solar power is another possibility. I prefer to keep the same car with better insulation on the cab. If you want to sale one to me I can make prototype of my proposals.

    Jan 23, 2021
  • anon

    Young people wake up. Amazon is using all the oil

    Jan 17, 2021
  • anon

    They need heat and air. With conversion to electric. Keep the fleet

    Jan 17, 2021
  • anon

    Be a good idea to keep the fleet and just change the engine to electrical. A test engine from gm was put in my car and it runs fine. But its a gas engine. Good idea to just remove the motors and convert to electrical

    Jan 17, 2021
  • anon

    Workhorse all the way!!! Electeic is the way to go!

    Jan 03, 2021
  • anon

    Next generation delivery vehicles should 100% be all electric! This is the future not the flinstones! Workhorse all the way!!!

    Jan 03, 2021
  • anon

    The future is hydrogen fuel cells, a combination of fuel cell and battery have a place in our new vehicles. Check Plug Power and use that technology for a modern, green, clean postal service. Thank you, Kevin P. Detwiler

    Dec 20, 2020
  • anon

    "made in USA" tech from PLUG Power is perfect fit for new green delivery van contract. No brainer.

    Feb 18, 2021
  • anon

    I am a 17 year veteran rural carrier with the postal service. We were, originally, all POV routes until 12 years ago. The city carriers were getting a new fleet of vehicles in our area, and we were forced to accept the LLV’s and routes were changed to postal vehicle routes. In the past 6 months we have had several LLV’s breakdown, sitting in our parking without service. Other stations taking our vehicles to offset their own vehicle shortages. I, personally, was hit by a driver who ran a red light and now we are down another vehicle (mine is totaled). I haven’t had any luck getting my vehicle replaced, and now I wait for other carriers to return from their routes in order to use their LLV. I’m also being told that they may change me to a POV route again. What? The postal service is expecting me to buy a vehicle to deliver mail? They didn’t give me a choice when the changed my route the first time. Their expectations are absurd. We are down 5 vehicles, no relief in sight. We need the proper tools and equipment to do our job effectively. Do we have a timeline on the possibility of new vehicles being available? We need help now.

    Dec 12, 2020
  • anon

    How can I purchase a LLV mail truck? I am in san diego Ca

    Dec 09, 2020
  • anon

    I really like the LLV's. I am trying to see if any are available for sale. Do you know where I can find one?

    Dec 09, 2020
  • anon

    Going electric makes the most sense in urban and suburban areas, where as gas vehicles probably make the most sense in rural areas albeit depending on the range of the EVs. It would be great if our postal service took the initiative to be the first major agency to retire their fleet for an EV option. Workhorse seems to be the right solution in this situation.

    Dec 02, 2020
  • anon

    I would like the usps to publicly announce when the expect to have a decision about the ngdv.

    Dec 02, 2020
  • anon

    Why did the USPS release privileged information to Trucks.com today regarding the delay of this NGDV contract? Shouldn’t this information be released via an official press release? This information is worth millions of dollars to shareholders and investors. Releasing such sensitive information to a single entity and not others gives rise to market manipulation. The optics of this situation are not good.

    Dec 01, 2020
  • anon

    Personally, i think the contract should be split between Ford and Workhorse. Afterall, we probably shouldnt put all our eggs in one basket. Does anyone remember the last round of ev cars that ended up in the junk yards because of engine fires? And what about these long range EMPs I have been hearing about that China has? Or even solar flairs like the one in 1989 that left parts of Canada without power? And then there are snowstorms, hurricanes, etc. that can wipe out an eastern seaboard power grid for a week or more. Surely our great educated leaders have thought of these things? While I am not under the impression that I pay the postal workers or am anymore than a greatful customer, the money for the trucks, a government contract, is most likely funded on part by some taxpayer funds. And I do believe that if we have the capabilities to supply our own country's endeavors we should support our U.S. manufacturers and their employees by awarding the contract to one or more of them.

    Nov 27, 2020
  • anon

    Sorry but no, the post office doesn't get a dime of taxpayer money ever. But they should still buy american. But like most self sustaining business they go with whoever is cheapest in this case Mercedes and Mercedes tend not to spontaneously combust like those other ones did.

    Dec 11, 2020
  • anon

    That is a fairy tale that they tell you. The Post Office just received several billion dollars of tax payer monies last year. The Post Office LOSES billions of dollars each year, and yet, still pays the bills. Any normal company would have gone bankrupt years ago. Where do you think the money comes from to keep them going---from the government---which means the taxpayers.

    Jan 09, 2021
  • anon

    Actually they were given only a $10Million line of credit.

    Feb 23, 2021
  • anon

    "Most self sustaining businesses" who are outsourcing american jobs forget that its not only american money getting spent on foreign products but also that money helps foreign companies employ foreign workers who then pay taxes to their governments on earnings. With so many americans out of work, on unemployment draining a social security system that is already underfunded, we should spend the money in the US so that some of the expenditure recycles into our economy and own government instead of some one elses. Buy American.

    Jan 05, 2021
  • anon

    It's time for an EV. And for a vehicle built in a modular manner, where the EV components can be readily upgraded as technology improves. It's time for a delivery slot to be incorporated in the vehicle, so people can leave outgoing letters at any parked vehicle. It's time for GPS tracking, so you can monitor if employees are actually in the right area, when delivering parcels.

    Nov 27, 2020
  • anon

    Hello, I already know the answer to this question I’m about to ask but I’d like a few ppl to answer it anyways to prove wrong a clueless person.... Here is the question. What companies are left in the bidding for the USPS 6.3B-8B contract for replacing their mail truck fleet? If I can get 3-5 answers that’d be great thanks!

    Nov 25, 2020
  • anon

    Workhorse. All Electric. Seems like the auto industry as a whole is trending that way for both commercial and personal owners. The hybrid options seem like a half in half out commitment. And lets Keep everything built in America.

    Nov 20, 2020
  • anon

    EVs now!! They are cheaper in the long run, that is a fact. And much more efficient. Don't be a tech hater. Do you really want to be like the people who thought horses were better when Fords came out??

    Nov 20, 2020
  • anon

    I am not happy but certainly not surprised Uncle Sam is even CONSIDERING bids from foreign companies - as a customer / taxpayer paying your salaries I insist only American companies be candidates for the contract There is already far too much of our money going into foreign pockets of which we have no control and I don't want to have to pay India Turkey or any other outsiders for our mail trucks - despite your parroting you are stand alone self sustaining blah blah blah you are still part of the federal government and we the people are your boss

    Nov 19, 2020
  • anon

    Yea a no fed money of anykind taxes or other go to the post office. Your not the boss. Just an unruly customer complaining about a free service that you get even though your a whiney jerk. You only pay into post office if you choose to if you buy a stamp or someother form of shipping or advertising genius.

    Dec 11, 2020
  • anon

    You sir do not pay our salary. When you buy a stamp that pays our salery. You may want to look into it! And you are from a boss you seem like some grumpy man who did not make it in life and probably drive a toyota.

    Nov 24, 2020

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